2013/9/5 John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com>

>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013  Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Coercion is by persons, not by object or logical things...
>>
>
> So if I were shipwrecked on a desert island then no matter how much I
> hated it there and wanted to get back home I would have complete and
> absolute free will, but if I ever did get back to my home in Manhattan I
> would have far less free will because then there would be millions of
> agents with the potential to interfere with my wishes.  If I fall down a
> well and get stuck and nobody knows I'm there then I have free will, but if
> I live happily in even a very nice small town then I do not. Is that really
> what you mean by "free will"?
>
>
> > Free will is the ability to chose to do something
>>
>
> And there are only 2 possibilities, the choice was made for a reason or it
> was not. If it was it's deterministic if it's not it's random.
>
>
>> > everything you do is by your own *will*
>>
>
> So if I stay on the ground rather than fall through the crust to the
> Earth's center that happened not because of the Pauli Exclusion Principle
> but because I willed myself to stay on the surface.
>

As I said earlier, you just like to play dumb and feel like a great
intelligent man... You don't want to discuss, fine, I'll stop discussing
with you, it's pointless.



> > the jury will have to see if the wrong you did was by your own choice or
>> not, if it was your own choice then it was free, you could have chosen
>> otherwise but you chose not to, nobody forced you.
>>
>
> And that is why the criminal justice system on every country on the planet
> is such a ridiculous illogical mess.
>
>   John K Clark
>
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