On Thu, Sep 5, 2013  Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Coercion is by persons, not by object or logical things...

So if I were shipwrecked on a desert island then no matter how much I hated
it there and wanted to get back home I would have complete and absolute
free will, but if I ever did get back to my home in Manhattan I would have
far less free will because then there would be millions of agents with the
potential to interfere with my wishes.  If I fall down a well and get stuck
and nobody knows I'm there then I have free will, but if I live happily in
even a very nice small town then I do not. Is that really what you mean by
"free will"?

> Free will is the ability to chose to do something

And there are only 2 possibilities, the choice was made for a reason or it
was not. If it was it's deterministic if it's not it's random.

> > everything you do is by your own *will*

So if I stay on the ground rather than fall through the crust to the
Earth's center that happened not because of the Pauli Exclusion Principle
but because I willed myself to stay on the surface.

> the jury will have to see if the wrong you did was by your own choice or
> not, if it was your own choice then it was free, you could have chosen
> otherwise but you chose not to, nobody forced you.

And that is why the criminal justice system on every country on the planet
is such a ridiculous illogical mess.

  John K Clark

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