On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 09:29:17AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 28 Sep 2013, at 07:46, Russell Standish wrote: > > >On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 04:33:15AM +0000, chris peck wrote: > >>Hi Russel > >> > >>Thank goodness Clarcky has the same/similar complaint as me. I > >>think Brent does too, because he said he had an initial reaction > >>to the step like this and then offered an analysis of the > >>probabilities to me all of which were certainties rather than > >>indeterminacies. He didn't get back to me on that, but I think > >>he has doubts or should have. > >> > >>>>If that is not what you said, what do you think that man would > >>experience? > >> > >>a) Nothing > >>b) being in Moscow xor being in Washington > >>c) being in Moscow and Washington > >>d) being in neither Moscow nor Washington > >> > >>Logically, these four possibilities exhaust the situation. Only b) is > >>compatible with COMP. > >> > >> > >>You have to remember that the question is asked before the man > >>is duplicated and consequently only c is compatible with comp. I > >>hope Bruno's ideas are not too dependent on b being compatible > >>with comp, because b is incompatible. > >> > >>If the scan of the man successfully copies the 'I'ness, then > >>that 'I'ness must be sent to washington AND moscow. And, given > >>comp, prior to duplication he should expect to experience both > >>moscow and washington. > >> > >>All the best. > >> > >> > > > >Experiencing both Washington and Moscow at the same time would be a > >sort of madness, a schizophrenic experience. That is why I said it did > >violence to the notion of surviving the duplication. With b) on the > >other hand, it matters not whether you experience Washington, or you > >experience Moscow, you have survived the experience. That is why b) is > >compatible. > > > >I suppose in retrospect, strictly speaking, d) is also compatible with > >COMP, but a bit of a strange choice. One wonders what you possibly > >could be > >experiencing in this case, given the protocol. > > I don't see how d) can be compatible with comp. Both sees one city, > W or M. Only "b" is compatible, like you said. > > Bruno
You survive the experience, but it is not the experience you expect. Maybe you end up dreaming that you are on Mars, for example. Its an odd choice, as I said, but I can't see how the COMP postulates rule it out. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
