On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 09:29:17AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 28 Sep 2013, at 07:46, Russell Standish wrote: > > >On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 04:33:15AM +0000, chris peck wrote: > >>Hi Russel > >> > >>Thank goodness Clarcky has the same/similar complaint as me. I > >>think Brent does too, because he said he had an initial reaction > >>to the step like this and then offered an analysis of the > >>probabilities to me all of which were certainties rather than > >>indeterminacies. He didn't get back to me on that, but I think > >>he has doubts or should have. > >> > >>>>If that is not what you said, what do you think that man would > >>experience? > >> > >>a) Nothing > >>b) being in Moscow xor being in Washington > >>c) being in Moscow and Washington > >>d) being in neither Moscow nor Washington > >> > >>Logically, these four possibilities exhaust the situation. Only b) is > >>compatible with COMP. > >> > >> > >>You have to remember that the question is asked before the man > >>is duplicated and consequently only c is compatible with comp. I > >>hope Bruno's ideas are not too dependent on b being compatible > >>with comp, because b is incompatible. > >> > >>If the scan of the man successfully copies the 'I'ness, then > >>that 'I'ness must be sent to washington AND moscow. And, given > >>comp, prior to duplication he should expect to experience both > >>moscow and washington. > >> > >>All the best. > >> > >> > > > >Experiencing both Washington and Moscow at the same time would be a > >sort of madness, a schizophrenic experience. That is why I said it did > >violence to the notion of surviving the duplication. With b) on the > >other hand, it matters not whether you experience Washington, or you > >experience Moscow, you have survived the experience. That is why b) is > >compatible. > > > >I suppose in retrospect, strictly speaking, d) is also compatible with > >COMP, but a bit of a strange choice. One wonders what you possibly > >could be > >experiencing in this case, given the protocol. > > I don't see how d) can be compatible with comp. Both sees one city, > W or M. Only "b" is compatible, like you said. > > Bruno
You survive the experience, but it is not the experience you expect. Maybe you end up dreaming that you are on Mars, for example. Its an odd choice, as I said, but I can't see how the COMP postulates rule it out. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
