On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > On 30 Sep 2013, at 14:05, Telmo Menezes wrote <to Craig>: > > > The comp assumption that computations have > > qualia hidden inside them is not much of an answer either in my view. > > > I have the same problem. > > > The solution is in the fact that all machines have that problem. More > exactly: all persons capable of surviving a digital substitution must have > that and similar problems. It is a sort of meta-solution explaining that we > are indeed confronted to something which is simply totally unexplainable. > > Note also that the expression "computation have qualia" can be misleading. A > computation has no qualia, strictly speaking. Only a person supported by an > infinity of computation can be said to have qualia, or to live qualia. Then > the math of self-reference can be used to explain why the qualia have to > escape the pure third person type of explanations.
Thanks Bruno. Is there some formal proof of this? Can it be followed by a mere mortal? > A good exercise consists in trying to think about what could like an > explanation of what a qualia is. Even without comp, that will seem > impossible, and that explains why some people, like Craig, estimate that we > have to take them as primitive. here comp explains, why there are things > like qualia, which can emerge only in the frist person points of view, and > admit irreductible components. > > Bruno > > > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
