On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> On 30 Sep 2013, at 14:05, Telmo Menezes wrote <to Craig>:
> The comp assumption that computations have
> qualia hidden inside them is not much of an answer either in my view.
> I have the same problem.
> The solution is in the fact that all machines have that problem. More
> exactly: all persons capable of surviving a digital substitution must have
> that and similar problems. It is a sort of meta-solution explaining that we
> are indeed confronted to something which is simply totally unexplainable.
> Note also that the expression "computation have qualia" can be misleading. A
> computation has no qualia, strictly speaking. Only a person supported by an
> infinity of computation can be said to have qualia, or to live qualia. Then
> the math of self-reference can be used to explain why the qualia have to
> escape the pure third person type of explanations.
Thanks Bruno. Is there some formal proof of this? Can it be followed
by a mere mortal?
> A good exercise consists in trying to think about what could like an
> explanation of what a qualia is. Even without comp, that will seem
> impossible, and that explains why some people, like Craig, estimate that we
> have to take them as primitive. here comp explains, why there are things
> like qualia, which can emerge only in the frist person points of view, and
> admit irreductible components.
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