On 10/2/2013 6:35 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:


On 01 Oct 2013, at 19:09, meekerdb wrote:

On 10/1/2013 4:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Note also that the expression "computation have qualia" can be misleading. A computation has no qualia, strictly speaking. Only a person supported by an infinity of computation can be said to have qualia, or to live qualia.

Why an infinity of computation??

Because the FPI bears on arithmetic, which contains the running of all universal machine implementing your code, below your substitution level.

With comp you can attach a mind to some body, but you cannot attach one token body to a mind, you can attach only an infinities of such bodies, through the interference of all computations which realize them in arithmetic.





That would preclude my building an intelligent robot having qualia, since it's computations would always be finite. And I doubt there is room in my head for infinite computations - certainly not digital ones.

You are right. We cannot build intelligent being with qualia. The computer, and the 3p-robot, does not create that consciousness, it will only help a consciousness, which is already in Platonia, to be able to manifest itself relatively to you, with the same statistic for your and the robot continuations.

When a consciousness is not manifested, what is it's content?

Brent


It is confusing, but this is because we tend to associate mind to brain or robot, but mind is an attribute of person, and a brain or a body is only needed for a relative purpose.

Bruno




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