On 3 October 2013 14:12, chris peck <chris_peck...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Liz > * > >> Is there something wrong with quantum indeterminacy? > > * > Apart from the fact the MWI removes it? And that that is the point of MWI? > And that probability questions in MWI are notoriously thorny? > OK, and since the comp teleporter thought experiment gives *exactly* the same type of "first person indeterminacy" as the MWI, and for very similar reasons, I can't see what the problem is with that, either -- except perhaps what to call it -- "indeterminacy" is clearly not the right word. (As I said, this seems to be an argument about terminology, and certainly doesn't do anything to disprove comp.) > > This is why I resort to the Quantum Suicide experiment or better still to > Quantum Russian Roulette. The experimenter is 1-p certain of his own > survival, not unsure about it. Otherwise, he'ld never take part. And this > certainty has nothing to do with the fact that in the other outcome he > dies. It doesn't matter what happens in that branch. His certainty is > consequent on the fact that all outcomes obtain and being a MWI believer he > believes just that. > My thinking is that the QTI means he must survive in *both* branches (to be exact, he has a non-zero probability of surviving in both). In a few branches where the gun/bomb/whatever fires/explodes/whatever, he still survives, though probably horribly injured/mutilated - something he will have to live with for an indefinite future. Obviously the ratio of the former to the latter is huge, probably astronomically huge, but there is still a finite "chance" (or rather certainty) of ending up as the injured party. So playing quantum roulette effectively means I am condemning some of my future selves to a nasty fate. (This is why I try to avoid playing Quantum Roulette...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.