On Oct 15, 2013, at 11:09 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:

On 16 October 2013 16:58, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 15, 2013, at 10:10 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:

On 16 October 2013 16:01, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Our theory in a certain sense bridges the positions of Einstein and Bohr, since the complete theory is quite objective and deterministic...and yet on the subjective level...it is probabilistic in the strong sense that there is no way for observers to make any predictions better than the limitations imposed by the uncertainty principle."

So he explicitly says the fully deterministic theory (fully deterministic from the God's eye, third person view) leads to probabilistic (random/unpredictable) outcomes from the subjective observer's first person view. Even an observer who had complete knowledge of the deterministic wave function and could predict its entire evolution could not predict their next experience.

Technically they can. They can correctly predict that they will have all the available experiences.

That's the third person view. The view of the wavefunction's evolution. That is completely predictible.

Whether or not you will measure the electron to be spin up or spin down you can't predict in advance. That is because you experience both but neither experiences it as being both spin up and spin down.

I don't see how that's different from what I said - "afterwards, they will feel that they've experienced a probablistic event."


I agree with the text above. The part I was contesting was where you said that one can predict their next subjective experience.

When you say that one could answer they will experience all perspectives, then you are no longer speaking of a subjective experience.

Jason

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