On 21 Oct 2013, at 05:23, LizR wrote:

On 21 October 2013 16:18, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote:

If the first person views/memories are not integrated, they are not experienced by the Jupiter brain, only instantiated, and it learns nothing of what it is like to *be* the beings it discovers.

Part of it does, surely? Like part of my PC is running Firefox, and that part, loosely speaking, knows what it's like to be FireFox...

To pursue the loosely speaking, Firefox has the "p" of the Bp & p, at least when you run it, relatively to you. But Firefox, unlike elementary arithmetic, has very few beliefs and knowledge. LATEX is different, as it is Turing universal, but like Firefox, LATEX usually, when run, does not exploit its universality (nobody program in LATEX, except few LATEX experts, I think).

Lacking the Bp & p, makes me think it makes not much sense to say that Firefox knows or believes anything, but perhaps it is just my lack of imagination, and missing some association possible. But as LATEX, the "Bp" is quite hidden, then.

With A fixed point algorithm by Kleene, it is easy to add the Bp to the p, for firefox.

But who want firefox taking initiative?

BTW, my firefox told me once that my computer is obsolete!
Be polite firefox!

Bruno




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