On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 05:01:50PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > >Nevertheless, > >you do think there must be some strong indicators why a continuous > >(well at least local changes only) conscious path exists between all > >conscious states. What is that? > > By what I called (with a wrong terming) agnosologic path: where each > time you lost a mental feature, you lost also the mental reference > to it, so you "don't see any difference". > > This involves amnesia, and I don't use that in UDA or AUDA. But I > can also "think" and "discuss" like most participant in the list, on > the larger domain than my thesis ! >
Ah - I probably missed what you were trying to say earlier. To follow on from your "agnosologia", I would hesitate to guess that consciousness somehow involves feedback loops. To make another analogy, if I take a network, if sufficiently dense, it will have cycles (loops), where if you follow the links from a given vertex, you will end up back where you start from. If you start removing links, the number of cycles drops, until eventually no cycles are left. That will most likely occur around the percolation threshold of the network, which is about 62% link density (62% of possible links are actually present) IIRC. ISTM one loses consciousness (loss of all feedback loops) well before losing sufficient memories (the links) to be able to merge into another person. This is essentially the reason fading qualia-style arguments don't impress me. Of course this is not a proof. For that, I suspect we need a better theory of consciousness. But I'm seeing your analogy, and raising one :). -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
