On 10/29/2013 5:40 PM, LizR wrote:
On 30 October 2013 13:24, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com <mailto:whatsons...@gmail.com>> wrote:


    On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:52:12 PM UTC-4, Liz R wrote:

        On 30 October 2013 07:15, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com> wrote:


            Matter is concrete sense that extends to the inertial frame of the 
body. Get
            rid of your body, and your dream is matter.

        Goo goo goo joob!

        Sorry, but that does sound like a surreal 60s lyric, though it could 
maybe do
        with a bit of "poeticisation" to really work.


    Laugh if you must, but if you were in a dreaming coma and never wake up, 
your matter
    would be as real to you as anything every could be to anyone. If you can 
define
    matter in terms other than what has been detected by our minds using our 
body's
    sense, and/or an instrument's sense, then you might have cause to doubt me, 
but
    nobody has any other definition available to them.


There is another definition and is in fact the one we use. Matter is the stuff we agree about with other people as having certain properties of duration and location. Of course if you're a solipist you're on you're own.

Brent


Well I did apologise. Anyway I agree with your reply - if you'd said that in the first place, it wouldn't have sounded like gobbledegook.

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