*Yes - to the doctor?* I was always kept aback from agreeing, because I still believe to have included M O R E in my mind (brainfunctions, as you say) then whatever that good doctor and his device may supply. So I consider a mechanical substitution to the 'living' (what is it?) capabilities a reduction in qualia and quanta. Unless "the doctor" is an infinite universal machine...(still to have to meet one...)
JM On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:10 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > On 12/11/2013 12:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 10 Dec 2013, at 20:20, George wrote: > > Hi List > > I haven't contributed to this list for a while but I thought you might be > interested in this article from the Science > Daily<http://www.sciencedaily.com/>on line magazine > > Neural Prosthesis Restores Behavior After Brain > Injury<http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131209152259.htm> > > > Yes, things progress. Nice to hear of you George, best, > Of course, we cannot test the first person experience of the rat. Even if > the rat can talk, that would prove almost nothing, but the human will say > "yes" to the doctor anyway, and without thinking to much on the theoretical > consequences of the possible survival. > > > But this brings up a difficulty I see in "comp". We know that if the > level of substitution is quantal, then we can't clone the state of the part > being replaced (and in the UD model this corresponds to not knowing all the > threads of computation through the state). This wouldn't deter people from > saying "yes" to the doctor. But it implies that there will the a > qualitative difference in consciousness, a "jump", perhaps like a memory > gap and temporary disorientation due to concussion or drugs. But then why > doesn't some improbable quantum fluctuation prevent the part replacement > and provide a more continuous path of consciousness, in analogy to quantum > immortality? > > Brent > > > To stop comp to be *applied*, we should have made glasses illegal long > ago ... Then we can argue that molecular biology confirms the use of comp > by biological system all the time. > > > Bruno > > > > > George Levy > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
