On 28 Dec 2013, at 05:27, LizR wrote:

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On 28 December 2013 17:23, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote: Jason,You might be able to theoretically simulate it but certainly notcompute it in real time which is what reality actually does which ismy point."In real time" ?! In comp (and many TOEs) time is emergent.

`Physical times and subjective time emerge. OK. But let us be honest,`

`comp assumes already a sort of time, through the natural order: à, 1,`

`2, 3, ...`

Then you have all UD-time step of the computations emulated by the UD: phi_444(6) first step ... phi_444(6) second step

`... ... (meaning greater delay in`

`the UD-time steps).`

ph_444(6) third step ... ... ... ph_444(6) fourth step .... .... ... ... ph_444(6) fifth step etc.

To take a parallel example that should be close to your heart,suppose you're an AI living in the matrix and it's simulatingreality for you. You aren't aware of this but believe yourself to besay a human writer who is participating in an online discussion.Suppose it takes a million years to simulate one second of yourexperience. How would you know? You can only compare your experienceof time with in-matrix clocks, which all run at the speed you'dexpect.It's the same for any theory which tries to compute reality.

`But the physical time is not Turing emulable, and perhaps is not even`

`existing, like in Dewitt-Wheeler equation: H = 0.`

`if it exist, it depends on all computations "instantaneously", by the`

`delay invariance of the FPI.`

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