On 12/28/2013 3:17 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote:

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Does it necessarily have to be one or the other? Could both be true in a sense?Consider how QM has a matrix formulation and a wave function formulation...

`I don't think so - it would require a somewhat tortured interpretation. You might consult`

`a theologian. But more to the point, an interpretation is not necessary to test and apply`

`a theory. The interpretation is only of philosophical interest because it may lead to`

`other, better theories.`

Brent

On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:12 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net<mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:On 12/28/2013 1:44 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote:Jason, You'll have to ask the physicists who do think that. I can't speak for them. There is a good mathematical theory of decoherence that works fine in this world. It says nothing about MW whatsoever. Why do you think there is a connection?Decoherence only diagonalizes the system+measurement density matrix under a partial trace (over the environment). The diagonal them contains the probability values for the different eigenstates of the measurement operator. So then how do you get from there to a definite result? Do you, like Omnes, simply observe that you have predicted probabilities and so one of them obtains. Or do you go with Evertt and say that all of them exist with different measures and the apparent randomness is an illusion due to our consciousness being relative to the different outcomes? Brent

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