Brent, Sure, the alignment is the actual source of all randomness, because what is happening is independent spaces are being aligned by common events, and there is no deterministic way to align separate independent spaces (in the absence of a common background reference space which does not exist), thus nature is forced to act probabilistically. This phenomena is the source of all randomness.
Edgar On Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:19:42 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > Sure, but that's what advocates of Everett consider important. In > Copenhagen you have to apply the Born rule and then say those are the > probabilities of my observation and *one* of them occurs. Everett says > they all occur and different instances of *you* observe them. So which is > your theory. You did not answer my question below. > > Brent > > On 12/28/2013 4:36 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Brent, > > You are quibbling. It's just in other equations in the process. If it > wasn't, it couldn't be computed and we would have no theory of decoherence > that produces results but of course we do... > > Edgar > > > > On Saturday, December 28, 2013 7:28:24 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > On 12/28/2013 4:21 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Brent, > > The equations produce the results, you are trying to impose unwarranted > interpretations on them... > > > But decoherence doesn't "produce" *a* result. It produces a set of > probabilities. How do you get from there to the definite observation? > > And indcidentally, there's a step in decoherence which is NOT "in the > equations". That is taking a partial trace over the environment in some > particular basis (the "pointer" basis). This is not an evolution of the > Schrodinger equation. > > Brent > > > EDgar > > > > On Saturday, December 28, 2013 6:12:47 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > On 12/28/2013 1:44 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Jason, > > You'll have to ask the physicists who do think that. I can't speak for > them. > > There is a good mathematical theory of decoherence that works fine in > this world. It says nothing about MW whatsoever. > > Why do you think there is a connection? > > > Decoherence only diagonalizes the system+measurement > > ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
