On 12/30/2013 12:04 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:41 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net
On 12/30/2013 11:17 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:00 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net
On 12/30/2013 3:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
But that's essentially everything, since everything is (presumably) quantum.
But notice the limitation of quantum computers, if it has N qubits it takes
2^N complex numbers to specify its state, BUT you can only retrieve N
information from it (c.f. Holevo's theorem). So it doesn't really act
2^N parallel computers.
OK, but nobody pretended the contrary. You can still extract N bits
on the 2^N results, by doing some Fourier transfrom on all results
"parallel universes". This means that the 2^N computations have to
But they pretend that the number 2^N is so large that it cannot exist
universe, much less in that little quantum computer and therefore there
other worlds which contain these enormous number of bits. What Holevo's
theorem shows is the one can regard all those interference terms as mere
calculation fictions in going from N bit inputs to N bit outputs.
Can such "calculation fictions" support conciousness? That's the real
If they can, then you can't avoid many-worlds (or at least many minds).
Why is that "the real question"? Saying yes to the doctor implies that a
computer can support consciousness.
Because with computationalism, if a quantum computer runs the computations that support
a mind, there would be many resulting conscious states, and first person views.
Of course that is assuming the very proposition you're arguing.
That we can only access N-bits of a mind from any one world is irrelevant, as all the
conscious states exist in the intermediate states,
That's your story and you're sticking to it.
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
To post to this group, send email to email@example.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.