On 15 Jan 2014, at 09:48, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 15 Jan 2014, at 02:53, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Liz,
It's a lot less of "hunch" than the simulation theory in the first
place.
The simulation exists, like prime number exists. Selecting one
computation cannot work, by the UDA, so the only way to avoid the
measure problem on all simulations is to abandon computationalism,
... or to derive physics from comp, which consists in making physics
into a self-referential modality (and that works!). [I forgot to
finish the sentence, sorry].
with computation in the standard sense (not yours that you have not
defined, as you add a fuzzy reification to it, through your 1p
universal present time (which makes no sense, as we have pinted out).
Bruno
Why don't you just go back to the Bible and accept the theory that
God created man and the world 4000 years ago? It's EXACTLY the
same theory as the simulation theory, and equally unlikely, just
without the modern twist....
Edgar
On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:47:16 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
On 15 January 2014 14:37, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
Liz,
If your question is whether or not it is possible to determine
whether we are living in a matrix type simulation I believe it is
because we would not just be living in the simulation but in the
entire reality in which the simulation is being produced. Thus
given human level intelligence, and human level capability to
explore reality, the simulated being should be able to discover
cues that give the simulation away.
"Should be able to..." So, so far it's just a hunch. Suppose the
creators of the simulation were intelligent enough not to leave any
cues? You appear to be claiming that in principle, it would always
be possible. How, exactly?
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