On 14 January 2014 20:24, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

>  On 1/13/2014 11:16 PM, LizR wrote:
>
>  On 14 January 2014 19:42, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>  On 1/13/2014 10:18 PM, LizR wrote:
>>
> So you don't think a discussion of what counts as an AI is a good idea?
> OK, that's fine by me (you're the one who wants to discuss it, after all!)
>
> No, I meant I don't think it's a good idea to try to restrict AI to mean a
> *conscious* computer.  I'm certainly willing to assume it's possible.  I
> don't think a philosophers zombie is possible.
>

I just want to use the possibility of a conscious computer programme while
disussing this idea Edgar has that it would always be possible to know if
one is in a virtual reality.

> So let's just assume it's possible, since it's presumably a consequence of
> Edgar's theory, that a computer could be conscious,
>
> I don't know that Edgar agrees to that, although it would seem to be a
> consequence of his theory.  He hasn't said what it would take for a robot
> to be conscious.  Would intelligent behavior be enough?
>

I'm not sure Deep Blue is conscious, but it certainly appeared to be
intelligent.

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