On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 5:39 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

>  On 1/15/2014 2:54 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
>
>  Dear Edgar,
>
>    I will have to agree with LizR here. SR in fact makes the notion of a
> present moment a nonsensical concept, as SR shows how there does not exist,
> nay cannot exist any global frame of simultaneity. This prevents the
> existence, if SR is correct and good evidence tells us that it is, of any
> thing like a global present moment.
>
>    "That dog don't hunt!"
>
>
> But notice that Edgar makes two kinds of arguments:
>
> First, the local event argument - if two bodies interact it must be at the
> same moment (he neglects to to mention that it must also be at the same
> place).
>
> Second, the continuity argument - if two bodies interact at two different
> events than at any given time between those two events both bodies exist
> and this means that they are existing in the same moment, even though they
> are in different places..
>
> Curiously, in his online blog about SR he takes the same approach as Lewis
> Carrol Epstein in his excellent little book "Relativity Visualized".  He
> notes that everything is always traveling at the speed of light.  If you're
> 'standing still' that means you're just traveling in the time direction.
> So if you move in the space direction you must give up some speed in the
> time direction.  Epstein calls this a useful myth and doesn't misused it.
> Edgar assumes that 'time direction' is fixed like Newtonian space.
>
>
Brent,

In what sense is it a myth? That is one thing I could not figure out from
his book. Is it because proper-time is not rightfully a spatial dimension?
Or is there some other reason?

Thanks,

Jason

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