Dear Edgar, The closest thing that I can comprehend that might line up with your ideas of a "abstract dimensionLESS computational space" is a Hilbert space.

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On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote: > Stephen, > > There is no "all of spacetime" nor "each point of spacetime" where the > computations are occuring. Remember, that's an abstract dimensionLESS > computational space prior to dimensional spacetime. It has no 'points' > itself, it computes all points of dimensional space and clock time. They > arise as dimensional relationships imposed by the particle property > conservation laws and the laws that compute the binding forces of matter. > > But am pleased to hear you agree with the rest, the general concept... > > Edgar > > > > On Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:23:50 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: > >> Dear Edgar, >> >> I would agree with your idea here if you made one change: replace the >> single abstract computing space for all of space-time and replace it with >> an abstract computing space for each point of space-time. The *one* >> computation becomes an *infinite number* of disjoint computations. There >> are also an infinite number of different computations possible for each >> point for space time! Consider programs that are written in disjoint >> languages, i.e. that have no trivial translation between them or a common >> compiler. How many different computations can generate a simulation of the >> same physical system? More than one! >> >> This can be proven, I think, by rewriting A.A. Markov's diffeomorphism >> theorem into a weaker form. Something like: There does not exist a general >> algorithm that can decide in finite time whether or not a smooth >> diffeomorphism exists between any pair of 4-manifolds. >> OTOH, there do exist finite approximations of computations of clocks >> that can be defined in finite hypervolumes of space-time. This gives us the >> illusion of a present moment that is percievable at each point of >> space-time, but it is not one that can be arbitrarily extended to cover all >> of the manifold. Computation thus cannot be extendible over the entire >> manifold and thus there cannot be a global present moment that can be >> "computed". >> >> The point is that GR requires an infinite number of infinitesimal >> space-times that are "patched together" into a space-time manifold in order >> to make its predictions (including the equivalence principle). Since a >> physical clock cannot be defined *in* a infinitesimal space-time >> hypervolume (specifically the local neighborhood or "ball" of every point >> in the space-time manifold), there is no way of globally ordering the >> "present moments" that would be said to exist at each point. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net> wrote: >> >> Hi Jason, >> >> Yes I do have an explanation for how GR effects are computed. Thanks for >> asking. It's refreshing to just have someone ask a question about my >> theories rather than jumping to attack them. Much appreciated... >> >> The processor cycles for all computations are provided by P-time (clock >> time doesn't exist yet as it is going to be computed along with all other >> information states). Thus all computations occur simultaneously and >> continually in a non-dimensional abstract computational space as p-time >> progresses. >> >> The results of these computations is the information states of everything >> in the universe including all relativistic effects. The way this works to >> automatically get GR effects is simply to use the pure numeric information >> of the mass-energy particle property as the relative SCALE of the >> dimensionality of spacetime as it is computed. The effect of this is to >> automatically dilate (curve) spacetime around mass-energy concentrations >> and this produces the correct GR effects of curved spacetime. >> >> Imagine the usual GR rubber sheet model where the curvature of the rubber >> sheet is caused not by a weight sitting on it, but by a dilation of the >> spacetime grids around a central grid full of mass-energy. >> >> This mechanism automatically produces all the effects of GR from the >> fundamental computations as spacetime is dimensionalized by those >> computations. The slowing of time with acceleration comes by comparing the >> length and duration of motion of an object along the slope of the dilation >> to the number of orthogonal grids it crosses as it moves. >> >> If this is not clear let me know. >> >> Edgar >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:52:39 AM UTC-5, Jason wrote: >> >> Do you have an explanation for why reality time computes fewer moments >> for someone accelerating than someone at rest? >> < >> >> ... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/TBc_y2MZV5c/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Kindest Regards, Stephen Paul King Senior Researcher Mobile: (864) 567-3099 stephe...@provensecure.com http://www.provensecure.us/ “This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as attorney work product. 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