On 2/6/2014 8:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Yes. But it is not a back and forth. It just happen that when machine looks inward, and "stay honest" with herself, she cannot avoid some private transcendence. It is a theorem of arithmetic, with standard definition for transcendence.

I think the standard definition is "beyond normal experience", but I think you mean "true but unprovable". But even if you take transcendent to mean ineffable I don't see how arithmetic is going to pick out the qualia of experience as ineffable. There are infinitely many true but unprovable propositions. Why are the qualia we experience the ones that they are and not some others?

Brent

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