On 04 Feb 2014, at 18:07, Craig Weinberg wrote:

Numbers can be derived from sensible physics

That is a claim often done, but nobody has ever succeed without assuming Turing universality (and thus the numbers) in their description of physics. You often say, "we can do that", but this makes sense only if you do it actually.



as easily as physics can be derived from sensible numbers.

Physics is not yet extracted, only the or some quantum tautologies, and that was not that much easy, at least for me ...

Bruno

http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/



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