On 3/2/2014 8:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 02 Mar 2014, at 13:36, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
So, why do we get tired, and why is being tired like the way that it is? If its
exhaustion, maybe up a couple of days, why does it stop being about motivation and
becomes that we can't think straight? ass
Why do we need to sleep? Why do we need to REM sleep in what looks to be precise
amounts, which we're not capable of losing ground on (strong evidence when people are
prevented REM sleep in the lab over days, they begin to pass out more and more easily,
and don't return to normal until all the REM is made up for)
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Why is it, mental fatigue has certain properties that ties fatigue to specific mental
activities but not other, equally challenging ones? Why is this strongly correlated
with how much time a specifc kind of activity has already been focused on since last
sleep? Such that 'a change is as good as a rest'.
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If computation is intrinsically conscious why aren't we conscious in the vast majority
of our brains, where the vast majority of the heavy lifting goes on? Why aren't we
conscious in our other organs where sigtinificant computation takes place, and is
connected with our brains. When I write a piece of code and run it, why aren't I
experiencing the consciousness of the code? What decides what object and experiences
what consciousness, and why is that stable? If I lie down beside my twin, why don't I
sometimes wake up him?
If computation is intrinsically conscious, where is consciousness experienced? How is
facilitated? If a computer is intrinsically conscious, which hardware parts are
consciousness, and/or which hardwaerre parts are required by the conscious experience
of software, such that the experience is able to think the next thought? The processor?
RAM?
Given all this hardware is tightly controlled by processes running, and given these
processes, and their footprint through the hardware can be precisely known, why is the
old Turing needed, or should it be updated to include predictions for what an emergent
consciousness would look like, its footprint, CPU use? If computation is intrinsically
consciousness why can we account for the footprint of our code, purely in terms of, and
exactly
of that code?
Computation isn't necessarily consciousness, as you note. Consciousness, as I experience
it, has to do with language and images. It is a story I make up, based on perceptions and
memories, about what happens in my life. I think the evolutionary reason for this is that
in order learn from experience one must remember things; but there is too much to remember
in any detail. So the brain creates this story which is a condensation of the events in
order to store the information in a retrievable way. At least that's the way I would
design a robot if I wanted to exhibit human-like behavior and I think that would entail
that it would be conscious.
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Why haven't these footprint iss9ues been heavily researched over the past 50
years...why isn't there a hard theory? With nothing at all having been done in this
area, for all we know when the computer runs slow and starts to ceize that isn't
sometimes a darling little consciousness flashing into existence and struggling to
survive, only to be broken on the wheel of the Norton performance tuner? Why is even a
chance of that acceptable...why hasn't any work been done on the footprint issue?
?? You're worked up because flashes of consciousness might be occuring in computers? Why
would you care? Do you care about bacteria, insects, plants? First, you need a theory of
consciousness - then you can decide whether it has ethical implications.
Brent
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