On 02 Mar 2014, at 17:45, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Just a hunch, is that we cannot separate consciousness from physics.
What do you mean by this? It is more that we can't separate physics
from consciousness.
Are you aware that if we (in the third person view) are machine, then
physics emerge from arithmetic?
Do you have a problem with the UD Argument, and if yes, which one?
Bruno
What this implies I shall leave for the truly, brainy.
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Subject: consciousness questions bruno or anyone
So, why do we get tired, and why is being tired like the way that it
is? If its exhaustion, maybe up a couple of days, why does it stop
being about motivation and becomes that we can't think straight? ass
Why do we need to sleep? Why do we need to REM sleep in what looks
to be precise amounts, which we're not capable of losing ground on
(strong evidence when people are prevented REM sleep in the lab over
days, they begin to pass out more and more easily, and don't return
to normal until all the REM is made up for)
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Why is it, mental fatigue has certain properties that ties fatigue
to specific mental activities but not other, equally challenging
ones? Why is this strongly correlated with how much time a specifc
kind of activity has already been focused on since last sleep? Such
that 'a change is as good as a rest'.
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If computation is intrinsically conscious why aren't we conscious
in the vast majority of our brains, where the vast majority of the
heavy lifting goes on? Why aren't we conscious in our other organs
where sigtinificant computation takes place, and is connected with
our brains. When I write a piece of code and run it, why aren't I
experiencing the consciousness of the code? What decides what
object and experiences what consciousness, and why is that stable?
If I lie down beside my twin, why don't I sometimes wake up him?
If computation is intrinsically conscious, where is consciousness
experienced? How is facilitated? If a computer is intrinsically
conscious, which hardware parts are consciousness, and/or which
hardwaerre parts are required by the conscious experience of
software, such that the experience is able to think the next
thought? The processor? RAM?
Given all this hardware is tightly controlled by processes running,
and given these processes, and their footprint through the hardware
can be precisely known, why is the old Turing needed, or should it
be updated to include predictions for what an emergent consciousness
would look like, its footprint, CPU use? If computation is
intrinsically consciousness why can we account for the footprint of
our code, purely in terms of, and exactly
of that code?
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Why haven't these footprint iss9ues been heavily researched over the
past 50 years...why isn't there a hard theory? With nothing at all
having been done in this area, for all we know when the computer
runs slow and starts to ceize that isn't sometimes a darling little
consciousness flashing into existence and struggling to survive,
only to be broken on the wheel of the Norton performance tuner? Why
is even a chance of that acceptable...why hasn't any work been done
on the footprint issue?
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