Hi Bruno - I read below but am answering here. You're sincere and I'm not getting my single point across to you. I'm about done trying I think. I've taken a lot of value from the process and it's shame if you haven't but sincerity was all round. In my view, it doesn't stack up building a specific digital, specific software/hardware, prefixed conception into computationalism when so little is known about consciousness. There are other ways that computationalism can be true and yet have mind blowing surprises in store for the nature of what it is. You don't agree. You think comp is owned by the theses you give to it. You think the brain and consciousness is just a technicality despite knowing almost nothing about it, and being unable to give a satisfying explanation of it. That's your right and your theory. A view like that is not something I will ever relate to, but nor do I have a problem.with coexisting alongside. I suppose I'll draw a line provocatively by asking whether a complex protein....so precisely dependent on a 3D structure, is computational? The gene is, but is the protein? And if the answer is yes, how much code would be necessary to capture all the structure relationships. A gene just builds it, doesn't run it. Why is it ruled out effectively, that computation in 3D reality uses 3D reality, structure, as computation? Because it's faster and m ore elegant and Occam simpler, makes use of the dimensionality and materials that define the reality. If it was digital computing, it would have surely made that our reality too That's where I'm at,. And if that's saying no to your doctor, it's definitely saying yes to mine. And I think I own comp, not you. I'm right, not you. But in end the question of comp and consciousness will not be resolved by debate and persuasion...not for the majority of people. Only hard discovery and breakthrough progress will settle it. And that's the way it should be, and always has been. In Science.
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