Edgar, understood. But this shouldn't be the top of our priority, unless we are 
spreading homo sapiens to various parts of the solar system where humanity, and 
biomes, can be sustained for a very long time. Getting away from science 
fiction, there are things we can do until this golden interplanetary age. I 
don't see that a Paul Ehrlich response is a good way to go, or even achievable 
at this point. Hence, I'd prefer the technology path, rather than adopting 
China's one child policy. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating


Spud,


The best, likely the only, way to protect the environment is to drastically 
reduce human overpopulation. Down to pre-industrial levels would be a good 
target ~half to 1 billion...


Anyway if we don't do it ourselves the environment will do it for us...


Edgar




On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:43:35 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
You have a point, Edgar, and you yourself do not have a bad effect on the 
environment. However, a billion and one half fellow firewood gatherers, might 
have a more profound impact, and they may do a bit more than chopping then you 
do. Following Maslow's hierarchy of needs, when peoples standard of living 
improves, they start demanding a cleaner environment, and worry more about 
wildlife. You are doing the good because you choose to. Others are forced to 
gather firewood and chop trees. I hope nobody advocates permanent poverty as a 
method to protect the environment. 
 
Mitch

Spud,


Using firewood properly done does NOT disrupt the forest. I've used firewood 
for heating most of my life including currently. I use only dead trees from my 
own property (16 acres), not taking any with nesting holes. Only very rarely do 
I cut a live tree when it's clearly on its last legs or very 

...


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