I fear the control they "want" only exist in your mind... You should consult... seriously.
You live in a delusional paranoia. 2014-03-21 12:20 GMT+01:00 <[email protected]>: > You are picking up the inconsistencies given off by the Greens (red > greens) and the ruling class that funds them. > If we are doomed as even he NASA funded report assures us, then what's the > use? > If the calamity is not upon us, then we have time to rationally develop > and install the clean and phase out the dirty. > If the calamity is not upon us, we also have time to save the forests and > the seas by technical means. > But rather then address the problem directly, and seriously, the > environmentalists, billionaires and their pols demand control. > The control is rule over the serfs, not to better the serfs lives, or > sustain the seas and forests, using rational technical means. > To quote the mayor of Chicago, Rahm Emmanuel, "A crisis is a bad thing to > waste." > To wit: If you have a broken toilet, get it fixed, rather than make a law > about toilet use. > > -----Original Message----- > From: LizR <[email protected]> > To: everything-list <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Mar 20, 2014 9:23 pm > Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating > > Spudboy100, > > I'm not sure where you're coming from. You seem to agree that there is a > looming environmental / resources problem, and that we should use > technology to make a transition to more renewable energy sources and so on. > And you agree that we should ideally reduce the population long term (the > rate at which the population of a country rises appears to be inversely > proportional to how well educated and equal-opportunities women are, by the > way). So in other words you sound like an environmentalist ... apart from > the way you keep fulminating against some idea you have that Greenies are > secretly plotting to take over the world. It's all a bit confusing. > > > > On 21 March 2014 13:59, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Edgar, understood. But this shouldn't be the top of our priority, >> unless we are spreading homo sapiens to various parts of the solar system >> where humanity, and biomes, can be sustained for a very long time. Getting >> away from science fiction, there are things we can do until this golden >> interplanetary age. I don't see that a Paul Ehrlich response is a good way >> to go, or even achievable at this point. Hence, I'd prefer the technology >> path, rather than adopting China's one child policy. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> >> To: everything-list <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thu, Mar 20, 2014 7:52 pm >> Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating >> >> Spud, >> >> The best, likely the only, way to protect the environment is to >> drastically reduce human overpopulation. Down to pre-industrial levels >> would be a good target ~half to 1 billion... >> >> Anyway if we don't do it ourselves the environment will do it for us... >> >> Edgar >> >> >> >> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:43:35 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> You have a point, Edgar, and you yourself do not have a bad effect on >>> the environment. However, a billion and one half fellow firewood gatherers, >>> might have a more profound impact, and they may do a bit more than chopping >>> then you do. Following Maslow's hierarchy of needs, when peoples standard >>> of living improves, they start demanding a cleaner environment, and worry >>> more about wildlife. You are doing the good because you choose to. Others >>> are forced to gather firewood and chop trees. I hope nobody advocates >>> permanent poverty as a method to protect the environment. >>> >>> Mitch >>> >>> Spud, >>> >>> Using firewood properly done does NOT disrupt the forest. I've used >>> firewood for heating most of my life including currently. I use only dead >>> trees from my own property (16 acres), not taking any with nesting holes. >>> Only very rarely do I cut a live tree when it's clearly on its last legs or >>> very >>> >>> ... >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. 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