On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:09 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 4/10/2014 8:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 10 Apr 2014, at 12:51, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Read Corona's post carefully. >> > > I did, and I find his general ideas interesting and worth considering. I > don't quire agree that space exploration cannot compete with religion. When > I was growing up, I was forced to go to catholic sunday school, and at the > same time I was obsessed with space exploration. The former just bore me to > tears, while the second gave me feelings of human transcendence. This video > still works better for me than all of the religious attempts at showing the > divine: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoNITE-CLc > > It is sad that we are currently regressing in many ways. We lost the > ability to do what that video shows, > > > > Not everyone, apparently. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qzOzjRJpaU > > > > when we should be doing even more amazing things, and eventually > starting colonising other worlds. We are also regressing in social ways, > with the return of police states in the west and so on. I don't think > that's a coincidence. I hope it's a bump in the road. > > > The road is made of bumps. Things are not simple, and science is not yet > born. On the fundamental, many people either believe in fairy tales, or > confuse a scientific domain with theology, or eliminate the person. > > > > > > On the other hand, we expanded inwards with the Internet. I believe we > still just saw the beginning of the transformative power of the Internet > and the things it will enable. The ones in power sense this too, and they > are fighting it. At the moment we seem to be heading in the direction of > some cyberpunk dystopia. > > > It is the continuation of evolution and its exponential speeding up. > 99.9% of humanity will leaves this planet in the next millennia, and we can > hope Earth will remain some carbon museum. I mean in the "normal" future. > > > I hope you don't mean "leave" as a euphemism for "die". I think it very > doubtful that humans will colonize another planet, much less immigrate > wholesale. The nearest earth-like planet is going to be thousands of years > away. It might be possible to establish a small research outpost on Mars > and the Moon - but they're a lot more hostile than Antarctica and we'd have > a hard time establishing a self-sufficient colony there. > > I think our aspirations should be (1) live sustainably on this planet and > (2) create new race of beings, smarter and better than us, to explore the > universe. > > > > > But back to the gay issue. If the assumption is that "gay promotion" is > part of a strategy to reduce the population, then that's just silly. > > > That is hardly convincing, given the number of evidences that > politicians can be silly. > > > > If anything, allowing gays to marry and be parents and adopt is only > increasing the carrying capacity of our environment. > > > I don't see how it affects our environment. It just moves parental > responsibility around. > It might increase the amount of resources that humanity devotes to reproduction, because it facilitates gay people devoting their own effort and resources to that end -- either absorbing part of the effort through adoption or participating more directly with the help of surrogate mothers or sperm donors. Telmo. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
