On 6/9/2014 5:55 PM, LizR wrote:
On 10 June 2014 10:13, meekerdb <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 6/9/2014 2:46 PM, LizR wrote:

        I guess I could venture that it's the ontology of any TOE in which 
interactions
        are all 3p.

    OK, thanks. So I would guess that it's equivalent to eliminativism, as I 
think it's
    called - the idea that consciousness is an illusion ("albeit a persistent 
one"). It
    does seem that way to me.
    I don't think it implies eliminativism.  There's still temperature even 
though we
    have statistical mechanics.  I think there's far too much importance given 
to
    "what's fundamental" and it leads to calling everything else and illusion.  
I doubt
    that Bruno thinks arithmetic is an illusion just because what's fundamental 
is 0, S,
    +, and *.  A correction to this kind of obsession with essence is why I 
like my
    virtuous circle of explanation.


So how can all interactions be 3p? Maybe I misunderstood. It seems to me that consciousness implies there's 1p stuff going on?

I might be possible to know exactly what conscious thoughts are occurring by monitoring 3p accessible information (this is implicit in the idea that the brain is a classical information processor and its action instantiates consciousness), in which case it could be explained in 3p terms; but that doesn't mean the 1p stuff would suddenly cease to be any more that stat mech means that temperature ceases to exist.

Brent

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