On 10 June 2014 14:16, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > On 6/9/2014 5:55 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 10 June 2014 10:13, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 6/9/2014 2:46 PM, LizR wrote: >> >> I guess I could venture that it's the ontology of any TOE in which >>> interactions are all 3p. >>> >>> OK, thanks. So I would guess that it's equivalent to eliminativism, as >> I think it's called - the idea that consciousness is an illusion ("albeit a >> persistent one"). It does seem that way to me. >> >> I don't think it implies eliminativism. There's still temperature even >> though we have statistical mechanics. I think there's far too much >> importance given to "what's fundamental" and it leads to calling everything >> else and illusion. I doubt that Bruno thinks arithmetic is an illusion >> just because what's fundamental is 0, S, +, and *. A correction to this >> kind of obsession with essence is why I like my virtuous circle of >> explanation. >> > > So how can all interactions be 3p? Maybe I misunderstood. It seems to me > that consciousness implies there's 1p stuff going on? > > I might be possible to know exactly what conscious thoughts are occurring > by monitoring 3p accessible information (this is implicit in the idea that > the brain is a classical information processor and its action instantiates > consciousness), in which case it could be explained in 3p terms; but that > doesn't mean the 1p stuff would suddenly cease to be any more that stat > mech means that temperature ceases to exist. > > I still don't understand what you mean by "all interactions are 3p". "All 3p" seems by definition to exclude any 1p stuff .
Are you saying that there *are* 1p experiences, but they're just "along for the ride" and have no interaction with the rest of the world? (But surely 1p interacts with the outside world, even if only passively?) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
