On 22 Jul 2014, at 2:55 am, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

>> > What part of your brain is more evolved than a cat's brain that allows you 
>> > to say "I know"?
> 
> I'm just guessing but maybe the Neocortex because it's the biggest anatomical 
> difference between a cat's brain and mine. But I do know one thing for 
> certain, whatever part it is if it evolved then it effects behavior; and if 
> it effects behavior then the Turing Test works for consciousness and not just 
> intelligence.   
> 
>  John K Clark


Are you saying that there is no consciousness without intelligence? I believe 
(up to here at least) consciousness can exist minus intelligence.

Also, many things going on in the brain affect behaviour without necessarily 
having any impact on consciousness at all. 

I don't think the ability to say "I know (or believe) I am awake" has anything 
to do with intelligence. But it does require consciousness (even if asleep and 
dreaming that you said that.)

What I am driving at is that it is vaguely impossible to understand anything 1p 
in a 3p manner. 

Kim

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