On 24 July 2014 22:44, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > So I think you just saying I am "missing" the "qualia" - but that's the part > that I think it is unreasonable to ask for an explanation of. In what terms > can it be explained - I'd say none. And I don't think your explanation in > terms of computation, while different and interesting, is any more complete > than my physical one.
The qualia per se are not the capital point IMO. What may be even Harder is precisely what comp purports to explain (and what would consequently make it more complete than physics): a deep and necessary relation between 1p and 3p logical regimes. The explanatory strategy is to show how such regimes can be specifically distinguishable whilst at the same time elucidating their inter-dependence. It also purports to explain, again specifically in terms of the relation between the two regimes, their necessary limitations of mutual reference. In terms of this schema, whatever is sharable between 3p and 1p explanatory entities and relations is to be found at the crossing-point, or common point of reference, of two specifically distinguishable logical regimes. They will finally be explicable (in comp terms) as the "same thing" under two distinct, though limited, descriptions. Physics (as a theory of what is observable, as distinct from a theory of observation that embraces a theory of what is observable) does not set out to explain any such relation. It is, of course, "unreasonable" to ask for a 1p account from any theory whose terms of reference are thus explicitly limited. To the extent that any such relation is confronted in physical terms, there is typically a reliance (usually tacit) on comp as the vehicle. There is also what is possibly an even more deeply tacit reliance on a God's-eye default knower/interpreter. Indeed it is only because of this latter assumption that we are able to talk without apparent incoherence in terms of a universe that exists "independent of observation". David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
