On 04 Aug 2014, at 01:16, Kim Jones wrote:
On 4 Aug 2014, at 4:50 am, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
Bruno seems to have a theory, based on his salvia experience, that
a person can exist independently of any memories. That's why he
says things like, "We're all the same person." I find this theory
contrary to experience. I've had two relatives die of Alzheimers
and they certainly did not seem to be the same person as when they
could remember things.
Brent
Hang on.
Bruno says we are "the same person" in the Krishnamurti sense of
"there IS ONLY one person". Not in the sense of "the self appears
the same to others."
Yes.
Which is the shareable 3p version you are reporting.
Indeed.
It is like considering that the W-person and the M-person are the same
person as the H-person. They would both die, in W and in M, and we
would discover a backup-up of the H-person, and reconstitute it, that
person would not have died, he would only have an amnesy of its
experiences in W, or/and in M.
The WM-duplication can thus illustrate this point. If like me (and
John Clark) you agree that you are in bth place, even if on only one
of them from the first person perspective (needed fro the probability
on the experiences), then you can understand that we might all be the
same person as the one related to the first amoeba, before she
multiplied and differentiated.
They didn't seem this way to others whose memory was still intact -
sure. Surely this is the point. How things seem is not necessarily
how things are. The 1p version of what they underwent is
incommunicable. Now if we are "all one" (Ommmmmmmmmm......) then
this makes sense because it is only one computational stream and
only relates to 1p anyway.
OK.
Bruno
Kim
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