On 18 August 2014 23:27, Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm not entirely clear on Bruno's argument on this last point. The way
> I see it, if a brain is simulated by a computer program, what is being
> simulated is the physics; and if comp is true, that means that
> simulating the physics will also reproduce the brain's consciousness.
> I'm not sure about computations instantiating consciousness without
> instantiating physics, and I'm not sure how instantiating the
> appearance of physics is different to instantiating (virtual) physics.
>

I've always understood him to be saying, in the first place, that the
dovetailer necessarily generates certain classes of self-referential
computations. Very generally, such computations are then regarded as
emulating self-referred (i.e. first-personal or indexical) logics that in
turn are amenable to treatment as "beliefs" in realities or appearances. So
the idea is that comp necessarily entails epistemological logics (the
"dreams of the machines") that are *prior* to physics in the sense that
only certain sub-classes will be characterised by the statistical dominance
of physically-lawlike relations over their range of reference. I've always
assumed that it's this logical priority of "machine psychology" over the
subsequent appearance of lawlike physical relations that constitutes the
postulated "reversal".

David

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