On 15 Oct 2014, at 18:56, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>> I suggest to define God by "either the physical universe OR what
is at the origin of the physical universe,
>> Then if modern cosmologists are even close to being correct God
is not omniscient, God isn't even very smart, in fact God is as dumb
as a sack full of doorknobs.
> Proof?
Educate yourself by reading the excellent book by Lawrence M Krauss
"A Universe From Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather Than Nothing".
It assumes still enough physicalism so that he put still some magic in
the brain.
>> I believe in a physical universe but you have said on this list
that you don't.
> I never said anything like that.
You never said anything like that? On october 13 you said " But,
wait, we don't know if there *is* a physical world".
In the context, it means a primary physical world. I insist enough of
that important distinction.
As usual in statements of this sort you don't explaine what you're
talking about, that is to say you don't even attempt to explain how
things would be different if there was or was not a physical world
but nevertheless you said it.
Study the papers or read the posts. I even show precisely that the
difference is testable.
> I said only that if comp [...]
I have zero interest in what you have to say about "comp".
It is a weak version of comp (that is it is implied by all version of
comp, and so the consequence I get applies to those version). You just
stop to think at the step 3 of the UDA. That's poorly convincing hand
waving.
> which again confirm my point (you know the one which trigger your
bot-like answer).
If you don't like my bot-like answer then stop making the exact same
bot-like accusation; I give the stupidity prize to "Atheism, as I
know it, is a slight variant of christianism".
Then answer the argument I gave why Atheism is a copy of christianism.
Bruno
John K Clark
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