On 1/18/2015 7:24 PM, LizR wrote:
On 19 January 2015 at 07:14, meekerdb <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:On 1/18/2015 12:16 AM, Jason Resch wrote:Because 2+2=4, and there's nothing you (or anyone/anything) can do to change that.Sure there is. 2+2=0 in mod 4 arithmetic - which is good for describing some things. I hope you are being flippant and don't really think that disproves what Jason has said!If in doubt consider whether the phrase "in mod 4 arithmetic" was necessary to what you wrote. If it is, then arithmetic remains necessarily so until you can come up with something that is self-contradictory /without/ any such qualifiers being required.
As you must know from my other posts, I don't consider self-consistency to entail existence. So the fact that 2+2=4 is true doesn't imply anything about existence. That you consider "mod 4" to be a qualifier is just a convention of language. If we were talking about time what's six hours after 1900: answer 0100, because there the convention is mod 24. But my serious point is that arithmetic is a model of countable things we invented and it's not some magic that controls what exists.
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