> On 19 Jan 2015, at 2:51 pm, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > > But my serious point is that arithmetic is a model of countable things we > invented and it's not some magic that controls what exists. > > Brent
Magic? Hmmmmmm....you wish......still having trouble with the comp reversal, you are, sir. I observe there are many Turing Universal systems - they are all equivalent in terms of their ability to encode information and arithmetic is merely a choice of convenience because we cannot reduce arithmetic to anything else. We could even use music as our system if we wanted to as music encodes arithmetical values and in addition provides complete structures which are physically encoded as sound and therefore exist in a perfectly real sense. I guess you can say that Man invented music but the system that man chose to base music on is a Turing Universal system which is mathematical to the core. Which is the Turing Universal system that doesn't show some kind of relationship with arithmetic? Why do you feel that that reality would have to be "magical" if we notice important relations with arithmetical values? What does it feel like to be living in a magical universe, Brent? Kim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
