On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

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>> ​>>> ​
>> You (or anyone) are in Helsinki, you will be duplicated, and both copies
>> will get a cup of coffee in W and in M. The question is asked to you (or to
>> anyone doing that experiment)  in Helsinki, before pushing the button:
>> "what is your personal first person expectation of drinking a cup of coffee
>> after having push on the button.
>>
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> ​>> ​
> I
> ​​
> f both get the coffee then "I" would expect to get the coffee regardless
> of the precise meaning of the personal pronoun "I" ;
>
> ​> ​
> So you agree that P("experience of getting a cup of coffee soon") = 1.
> OK?
>

​OK I guess, but that's a pretty dull thought experiment. if everything in
the universe will get a cup of coffee then it doesn't matter what the
referent to "you" is because whatever it is he she or it will get some
coffee. What's your point? ​



> ​> ​
> later, I can explain that the Theaetetus definition of the knower
>

​Congratulations, you've taught me to really hate the ancient Greeks.​



> ​>​
> What Jason was 'babbling' about, is that the thesis is mainly the UDA
>

​I'm just not hungry for more of your homemade alphabet soup.​


> ​> ​
> Smullyan's "Forever Undecided" is a good introduction to the main modal
> logic of self-reference, the modal logic G.
>

​I love that book and first read it decades ago. ​
​Anything by
Smullyan ​
​is good if not great.

 John K Clark





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