On 7/22/2015 12:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 21 Jul 2015, at 19:42, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/21/2015 10:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
So maybe one could see W AND W the same way I can see my computer screen AND my dog
- just by attending to one or the other.
You will need a long neck to attend a conference in Moscow, and a party in Washington.
You can use a tele-vision system, and communicate by SMS, but unless you build a new
corpus callosum between the two brains, and fuse the limbic system, by comp, the two
"original" persons have become two persons, having each its unique experience. That
follows from mechanism, and so P(W xor M) = 1, and P(W & M) = 0, as no one can open
door in Moscow, and see some other city in the direct way of the first person experience.
It follows from physics.
We don't know that.
Then why did you assert the necessity of a physical connection: "You will need a long neck
to attend a conference in Moscow, and a party in Washington."
We just assume that the physics is rich enough to implement locally universal machine,
so that comp make sense, but then we arrive at the computationalist difficulties.
Physics assume a brain/mind link which has to be justified, and the UDA shows the change
we have to introduce.
But you have effectively asserted that the duplicate persons at different locations do not
experience both locations - their minds are separate because their brains are. If that is
more than just an assumption it is because it is relying on the physical basis of mind.
If you reject the physical basis of mind then you might expect the duplicates to share one
mind.
Brent
But does it follow from UD computations?
It should, (at step 7 and 8) and the point is only that it is testable.
Up to now, it is working well. But to explain this, we need to dig deeper in computer
science.
Are you OK with the steps 0-6? 0-7? From your other posts, I think you were OK. So we
can perhaps come back on step 8. I think Bruce Kellet has also some problem there. That
can only be more intersting than the nonsense about step 3 that we can hear those days.
Bruno
Brent
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