On 23 Jul 2015, at 00:19, John Clark wrote:

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote:

​> ​So you're claiming that the probability of seeing spin up while doing a measurement of the spin is one (likewise seeing spin down) right?

​That is neither right nor wrong because it is not clear what ​ "the probability" refers to; the probability of *who* seeing spin up?

Oh, You said us that in the MWI there were no problem as the copies cannot met, and so the use of probability makes sense in QM. OK you did change your mind, and I guess this is to hide the fact that your argument against the FPI and Chris Peck's argument would contradict each other. It looks a bit opportunistic to me, and it annihilates your previews post on the subject.




What ​I am claiming is ​that if the MWI is correct and if Quentin Anciaux performs a spin measurement on a electron then Quentin Anciaux will see spin up with 100% probability and Quentin Anciaux will see spin down with 100% probability.

In the description of the wave, yes, a typical 3-1 view. But n QM we use that to evaluate outcomes of future measurement, and we get probabilities.




I am also claiming that if Quentin Anciaux measures the spin of a electron and I say "I bet Quentin Anciaux got spin up" I will win the bet 50% of the time. Again assuming that the MWI is correct.

You get only probability 100% if you include yourself in the wave, by what you say above, or you get solipsisme, as you allow probabilities, but only for you, which is indeed a way to confuse the 3p and the 1p.

Bruno


​> ​Then, for one if you agree, you're just saying MWI is false, so you lied to us for years saying the contrary,

​And likewise the probability of ​Quentin Anciaux fucking a horse is 100% and the probability of Quentin Anciaux fucking a mule is 100%; but if I say "I bet it was a mule not a horse that Quentin Anciaux fucked" I will win my bet 50% of the time.

  John K Clark




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