On 23 Jul 2015, at 19:33, John Clark wrote:


On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote: > Actually ​John Clark "pretends" that half the John Clark's who say "I bet ​Quentin Anciaux will see spin up when the electron is measured" will win the bet.


​> ​Actually John Clark can say the same thing betting that after duplication he will find moscow behind the door,

​Yes, after the duplication but before the door of the duplicating chamber ​is opened John Clark may have a hunch that he (at this point the personal pronoun is not ambiguous because although there are 2 bodies they are identical so there is still just one John Clark) will see Moscow when the door is opened and make a bet. One of the John Clarks will win the bet and one will not; it can never be determined if "he" won the bet because as soon as the door was opened the 2 bodies were no longer identical, they had different memories, so that personal pronoun becomes ambiguous.

That contradict the fact that you have agreed that both copies are the Helsinki guy. There is no ambiguity, you are both guys. But both guys have incompatible first person experiences, and that explains the prediction "W v M", as explained with all detail before (reread the last posts).

It looks you change your mind on this, but then it looks you say whatever needed to deny the obvious.

Bruno




  John K Clark


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