On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

​> ​
> Indeed, with respect to immortality, an artificial brain is vain, but if
> you want elongated your "normal" physical (arising from the sigma_1
> probability calculus), then you need to make your actual brain to continue
>

​
No
​ I don't​
, I just have to make something that behaves as my original biological
brain did because none of the atoms in my brain have the name "John K
Clark" scratched on them.
​One Hydrogen atom is as good as another.​



> ​> ​
> but then you can expect to pay the price in the normal worlds, and knowing
> the humans, and the concrete doctors, that might be risky.
>

​If you are correct please specify exactly what that risk is ​and explain
how not getting frozen would avoid that risk.


​> ​
> Your remark reminds me the critics against the MWers: why don't you jump
> out of the window instead of using the lift, given that you will survive in
> some worlds.
>

​I like the Many Worlds ​Interpretation and think it's superior to any
competing interpretation that I know of, but I'm not so confident it's
correct that I'd bet my life on it.

​Bruno, I know you're​ certain but there is a question you need to
ask yourself " besides being certain am I also correct?".


> ​> ​
> Answers the probability is hig that you survive with your quality life
> deteriorated.
>

That answer makes no sense. If Many Worlds is correct then even if I decide
not
​
to jump out of the window in this universe in another universe I
​ ​
will
​
decide to do
​
so
​
and I
​
will
​ ​
​
die
​
as a result
​.
A
​
nd in
​
yet
​
another universe I
​ will
also
​
decide to
​
jump out of the
​
window
​
but
​
this time
​
I don't die, I just break my spinal cord and become a
​
quadriplegic. If the MWI is correct everything that can happen will happen.

​
>> ​>> ​
>> So if you're right I don't see what good ​keeping it secret would do.
>
>
> ​> ​
> To avoid becoming a victim by a hunters of those poor humans non-encrypted
> code.
>

​But if you're right (and I don't think you are) and physical
implementation ​is unnecessary and the mere existence of a Godel number can
create intelligence and consciousness then all those bad things are going
to happen to you regardless of if a human or anything else plugs your Godel
number into a physical computer.


> ​> ​
> there are much simplest and safe ways to be "immortal", in my *opinion*
> (like perhaps smoking salvia divinorum,
>

Well it's simple I'll give you that, the active ingredient in
​
salvia divinorum has only 23 Carbon atoms 28 Hydrogen atoms and 8 Oxygen
atoms,
​
but I don't see how a arrangement of matter that simple could make you
immortal.


> ​> ​
> which is about the same as dying, at least in some theory/interpretation
> of the experience).
>

​They may have had the experience of taking ​the drug but they have not had
the experience of dying so I don't see how they could know that one is like
the other.



> ​> ​
> What would you choose, John, if I give you the choice between a yellow
> pill and a green pill?:
> - the yellow pill makes you immortal,
> - the green pill eliminates completely the fear of death.
>

​I would take he Yellow pill without hesitation. I would never take the
green pill because without the fear of death I would have died many decades
ago
​;​
that's why Evolution invented fear as soon as it invented​ brains.

 John K Clark

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