On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 at 12:52 am, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 6:12 AM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 4/21/2017 3:42 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
> >>
> >> John is accusing you of naive dualism. He says that you claim that
> >> there is some mysterious substance (he finally called it a "soul")
> >> that is not copied in your thought experiment. What I claim is this:
> >> under physicalist assumptions, everything was copied. The problem is
> >> that physicalism leads to a contradiction,
> >
> >
> > I don't agree that it leads to a contradiction.  Can spell out what that
> > contradiction is?
>
> Shortly (sorry for any lack of rigour):
> If you assume computationalism, the computation that is currently
> supporting your mind state can be repeated in time and space. Maybe
> your current computation happens in the original planet Earth but also
> in a Universal Dovetailer running on a Jupiter-sized computer in a
> far-away galaxy. Given a multiverse, it seems reasonable to assume
> that these repetitions are bound to happen (also with the simulation
> argument, etc.). And yet our mind states are experienced as unique. It
> follows that, given computationalism, mind cannot be spatially or
> temporally situated, thus cannot be physical.


It is possible - addressing just this argument - that while mind is not
localised it still needs to be implemented in a physical substrate.

In this case we avoid dualism by reverting things: ok, so it is time
> and space that are generated by mind.
>
> I think.
>
> Telmo.
>
-- 
Stathis Papaioannou

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