On 11 Aug 2017, at 02:11, Bruce Kellett wrote:

On 11/08/2017 9:45 am, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:

"What will I see tomorrow?" is meaningful and does not contain any false propositions. Humans who are fully aware that there will be multiple copies understand the question and can use it consistently, and as I have tried to demonstrate even animals have an instinctive understanding of it. Probabilities can be consistently calculated using the assumption that I will experience being one and only one of the multiple future copies, and these probabilities can be used to plan for the future and to run successful business ventures. If you still insist it is gibberish that calls into question your usage of the word "gibberish ".

Not everyone will be successful in this scenario. No matter how mane duplications cycles are gone through, there will always be one individual at the end who has not received any reward at all (he has never seen Washington :-)). This is the problem of "monster sequences" that is so troublesome for understanding probability in Everett QM.


? You might elaborate. It looks like the white rabbit problem. I see the problem with mechanism, (indeed that is the result of the UDA: there is a measure on first person experience problem), but in Everett the problem is solved by Feynman phase randomization, itself justifiable from Gleason theorem. Then the math of self-reference shows that, very possibly, Gleason theorem will probably solve the classical case too, given that we find quantum logics at the place needed.

Are-you defending John Clark? That would be nice! He convinces nobody since years, and some helps might be handy.

Are you telling us that P(W) ≠ P(M) ≠ 1/2. What do *you* expect when pushing the button in Helsinki?

Bruno



Bruce

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