On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> wrote:
> > "What will I see tomorrow?" is meaningful and does not contain any false > propositions. If all meaning is beaten out of the personal pronoun "I" as Bruno does then it's not false and it's not a proposition either, it's just a ASCII character. Let me ask you Stathis Papaioannou a different question, do you think the following 2 questions are equivalent? 1) What will *I* see tomorrow? 2) What will Stathis Papaioannou see tomorrow? If they are equivalent then Stathis Papaioannou (aka *I*) will see 2 cities tomorrow. John Clark says they are equivalent, what does Stathis Papaioannou say? > > Humans who are fully aware that there will be multiple copies understand > the question and can use it consistently, I agree, they can use it consistently but they can also use it inconsistently so it's important to be careful. And none of this comes to us as second nature that we can know intuitively without thinking because up to now nobody has actually seen much less used a people duplicating machine. It's the same thing with Relativity and Quantum Mechanics, they seem very odd (but not logically inconsistent) because we don't experience either in our everyday life, we move too slow and are too big. But odd isn't the same as untrue. Some may consider all this airy philosophical speculation of no more practical significance than the number of angels that can dance on a pin, and perhaps it is right now but sometime in the next century correctly answering questions like these will gain life or death practical importance. > > Probabilities can be consistently calculated using the assumption that I > will experience being one and only one of the multiple future copies, Probabilities can NOT be used until we've nailed down the meaning of the personal pronoun "I", or better yet just get rid of the pronouns and use the proper noun. And I still want to know why we keep talking about the accuracy or inaccuracy of predictions when that has nothing to do with our continuous feeling of self. I also want to know why so many believe that looking from the present into the future is symmetrical with looking from the present back into the past. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
