On 6/25/2018 3:32 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 23 Jun 2018, at 08:03, Brent Meeker <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



On 6/22/2018 4:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
This does not mean that a conscious machine is necessarily more efficacious on 
all task,
What is the added undecideable sentence implied by consciousness?
“I am conscious”.

What does that speed up?  Does the speed up from adding an undeciable sentence suffer from Goodheart's curse?


Not sure what you mean. I would say “no”, in theory “I am not conscious” can also bring a speed-up, despite being obviously consistent, like PA with “I am inconsistent”. The speed-up is proved by constructive diagonalisation, and is thus non-intuitive, except we can imagine than being aware of one’s consciousness might help to planning, especially in an environment habited by conscious entities. Consciousness is *the* speed-up mechanism. It makes us thinking using model, semantic, meaning, instead of living the syntactical relation at some low level. Meaning is easier than proof, even if it can be misleading for individuals, it gives sense to sense, and priorities to higher goal, like surviving.

That all sounds like wishful thinking and hand-waving.  As I pointed out earlier, if you try to play tennis consciously you will lose because you will be slow.  Conscious thought no doubt helps in planning, but it also allows depression and suicide.  Dogs don't commit suicide.

Brent



Bruno




Brent


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