On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 6:10:17 PM UTC-6, Russell Standish wrote:
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> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 01:57:43PM -0800, [email protected] 
> <javascript:> wrote: 
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> > 
> > On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 8:43:32 PM UTC, Brent wrote: 
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> > 
> >     I don't necessarily accept those, but I'm willing to consider them 
> as a 
> >     theory of everything and see what they predict.  One thing you often 
> >     repeat is that you can derive QM from them.  So what is that 
> derivation? 
> > 
> > 
> > I've requested that (approximate) derivation several times for 
> motivational 
> > purposes, but to no avail. 
> > I am doubtful he can do it. He just keeps saying to read his papers. AG 
> > 
>
> The answer has been stated a number of times - various modal logics 
> appear by applying the Theatetus "trick" from the definition of 
> knowledge □p & p to the modal logic of provable and consistent 
> statements □p & ◇p, and then restricted to computable statements Σ₁ 
> gives rise to a modal logic Z₁ which satisfies the basic axioms of 
> quantum logic. 
>
> The best explanation of it (not so technical) is put forward in 
> Marchal's "le secret de l'amibe", translated as "The Amoeba's Secret" 
> in English. 
>
> Interesting, but a little underwhelming IMHO. Basically, he enumerates 
> a number of different model logic structures related to knowledge, 
> provability, consistency and belief, as well as restricting things to 
> the computable domain, and ends up with something resembling the 
> abstract skeleton of quantum mechanics extracted by von Neumann and 
> Birkhoff. I never quite understood why that particular modal logic was 
> the one that was supposed to describe matter. 
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> Principal, High Performance Coders 
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I am interested in modal logics for experience - "experiential modalities", 
or modalities of experience (ME): *The Subject of Experience* (Galen 
Strawson) [ https://books.google.com/books?id=HgvxDQAAQBAJ ].

I see the modal logics in the "Universal" articles as providing perhaps a 
basis for the "arithmetic" of ME but not its "substance" - its mathematical 
semantics but not its material semantics.

- pt

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