On Friday, December 21, 2018 at 11:12:18 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 21 Dec 2018, at 01:07, Philip Thrift <cloud...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
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> On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
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>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:13 AM Bruno Marchal <mar...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
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>> Is not 333’s oddness timeless?
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>> Category error.
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> On category error:
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> I've never understood "category error" [
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_mistake ]. (Some philosopher I
> read about recently gave a talk on the non-existence of category errors.
> Good.)
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> *Is 333's oddness timeless? *is a perfectly reasonable question.
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> To the immaterialist, the answer could be "yes".
> To the materialist, the answer could not be "no”.
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> That makes sense only if the materialist describe how 333 depends on time.
> But then I suppose he has a different definition than the usual one, and
> that requires clarification.
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> It all depends.
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> There is a type of dualists who say 333 is one category (nonphysical) and
> time (as in spacetime) is in another category (physical), but this dualism
> is just mixed-up confusion to me.
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> And to me to. But I guess you defends a materialist monism. That
> contradicts Mechanism.
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> Gilbert Ryle's initial rendition of "category error" (about mind) stands
> in contradiction to Galen Strawson on that topic.
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> The problem with the materialist is that they need to make consciousness
> into an illusion, and that is already jeopardise by the Cartesian Cogito.
> As I said, it is easier to explain the illusion of matter to a conscious
> being (especially if he remembers its dream) than to explain the illusion
> of consciousness to a piece of matter. Now, once we work in the Digital
> Mechanist frame, things get clearer and deeper.
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> Bruno
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But in 2019:
Out: Eliminative ("Mechanistic") Materialism
In: Experiential Materialism
"I think we need to radically rethink *our understanding of matter *in
order to explain consciousness, in something like the way Einstein
radically rethought the nature of space and time."
- Philip Goff [ http://www.philipgoffphilosophy.com/ ]
- pt
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