> On 21 Dec 2018, at 01:07, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 3:40:53 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:13 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
> 
> Is not 333’s oddness timeless?
> 
> Category error.
>  
> 
> 
> On category error:
> 
> I've never understood "category error" [ 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_mistake ]. (Some philosopher I read 
> about recently gave a talk on the non-existence of category errors. Good.) 
> 
> Is 333's oddness timeless? is a perfectly reasonable question.
> 
> To the immaterialist, the answer could be "yes".
> To the materialist, the answer could not be "no”.

That makes sense only if the materialist describe how 333 depends on time. But 
then I suppose he has a different definition than the usual one, and that 
requires clarification.



> 
> It all depends.
> 
> There is a type of dualists who say 333 is one category (nonphysical) and 
> time (as in spacetime) is in another category (physical), but this dualism is 
> just mixed-up confusion to me.

And to me to. But I guess you defends a materialist monism. That contradicts 
Mechanism.


> 
> Gilbert Ryle's initial rendition of "category error" (about mind) stands in 
> contradiction to Galen Strawson on that topic.

The problem with the materialist is that they need to make consciousness into 
an illusion, and that is already jeopardise by the Cartesian Cogito. As I said, 
it is easier to explain the illusion of matter to a conscious being (especially 
if he remembers its dream) than to explain the illusion of consciousness to a 
piece of matter. Now, once we work in the Digital Mechanist frame, things get 
clearer and deeper.

Bruno




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