On 12/24/2018 5:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 24 Dec 2018, at 00:23, Brent Meeker <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 12/23/2018 10:21 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 22 Dec 2018, at 23:08, Brent Meeker <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 12/21/2018 10:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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With Mechanism, physics has to be the same for all “observers” aka
universal machines, and indeed physics has to be independent of
the initial theory (phi_independent, or “machine independent” in
the sense of theoretical computer scientist (recursion theory does
not depend on which universal machinery we talk about).
Indeed, physics becomes simply the “measure one expectation” of
the universal machine on all computations going through (any) of
its states. All the rest will be contingent and can be called
geographical and/or historical. Our mundane consciousness requires
long and deep histories.
So what expectation has measure 1.0? Can you show that it includes
conservation of energy-momentum for example?
You should revise the basics. The answer is no of course. There is
not yet energy, physical time, … It is not even on the horizon.
Soling the mind body is not simple. But physics as metaphysics is
simply wrong with mechanism, so to solve the mind body problem,
there is no other choice, unless you know a better theory, of course.
Of course there are other choices: (1) Mechanism is wrong
Sure. That is what we can test. It fits well the fact until now,
unlike the materialist metaphysics.
(2) Your argument is wrong
Of course, that remains always a possibility, but you cannot assume
this, you have to find the mistake.
One mistake is in inferring from the possibility of "accidental"
implementations of computations instantiating conscious thoughts that no
physical implementation is required at all. Another is supposing that
an "ideal machine" that knows/believes/proves every theorem of
arithmetic is a reasonable model of conscious thought.
Brent
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