# Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

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On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 3:39:25 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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> On 12/29/2018 12:50 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
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> On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 11:02:30 AM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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>> On 12/29/2018 1:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> > I use number because people are more familiar with them. Most people
>> > can easily conceived that “17 is odd” is true independently of them,
>> > but would have an harder time to conceive that KKK=K independent of
>> > them, even if this does not mean much more than the first (left)
>> > projection of (K, K) is K.
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>> That's a good example.  People would immediately recognize that KKK=K is
>> just a convention.  They are deceived that "17 is odd" is an eternal
>> truth independent of human thought because they generalize from their
>> experience with physically countable things.
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>> Brent
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> I was thinking that if there is a group X of objects of the same mass, if
> X can be split into two groups A and B separated by a distance such that A
> and B pull (gravitate towards) each other equally, then X is even.
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> Forces are equal and opposite (from conservation of momentum) no matter
> how the objects are grouped.
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> Brent
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> (or something like that)
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> So gravity knows even and odd. :)
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> - pt
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I thought *gravity could tell the difference between even and odd*, like
there is no way to separate an *odd number* of pennies on a balance scale
[ https://www.mathsisfun.com/definitions/balance-scales.html ] and have the
scales be in balance.

- pt

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